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	<title>Comments on: Everyday Theology (1) » Reading and Interpreting Culture</title>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craftless, the thrust of Kevin&#039;s chapter and the book as a whole is not &quot;mission&quot; in terms of going into a foreign culture to understanding it, but instead, coming to understand the messages that are bombarding you in the culture in which you live and breathe. Therefore, culture exegesis is interpreting the embodied reality of your own cultural context. The first purpose then is understanding what message you are receiving from culture, before any missional purpose is parsed out. So it is not people making assumptions about you based on Christian media, but your own theological interpretation of Christian media. 

I appreciate your thoughts about the seemingly relative nature of the task, but I honestly don&#039;t feel the force of the critique. Is the point that because we can&#039;t do it perfectly, or because there are possible scenarios where well meaning believers couldn&#039;t do it, that we shouldn&#039;t bother doing it at all? I think that this discussion has the same issues that biblically hermeneutics has, but I don&#039;t think we should stop because we can&#039;t compare one pastor to another on a scale and decide which one is the better exegete. 

The point of cultural hermeneutics seems to be, from my point of view, a task of growing in wisdom. The task is both individual and communal, and isn&#039;t necessarily for the purpose of &quot;out-narrating&quot; it necessarily, as much as recognizing that it is a &quot;text&quot; which affects your (singular and plural) engagement with and in God&#039;s world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craftless, the thrust of Kevin&#8217;s chapter and the book as a whole is not &#8220;mission&#8221; in terms of going into a foreign culture to understanding it, but instead, coming to understand the messages that are bombarding you in the culture in which you live and breathe. Therefore, culture exegesis is interpreting the embodied reality of your own cultural context. The first purpose then is understanding what message you are receiving from culture, before any missional purpose is parsed out. So it is not people making assumptions about you based on Christian media, but your own theological interpretation of Christian media. </p>
<p>I appreciate your thoughts about the seemingly relative nature of the task, but I honestly don&#8217;t feel the force of the critique. Is the point that because we can&#8217;t do it perfectly, or because there are possible scenarios where well meaning believers couldn&#8217;t do it, that we shouldn&#8217;t bother doing it at all? I think that this discussion has the same issues that biblically hermeneutics has, but I don&#8217;t think we should stop because we can&#8217;t compare one pastor to another on a scale and decide which one is the better exegete. </p>
<p>The point of cultural hermeneutics seems to be, from my point of view, a task of growing in wisdom. The task is both individual and communal, and isn&#8217;t necessarily for the purpose of &#8220;out-narrating&#8221; it necessarily, as much as recognizing that it is a &#8220;text&#8221; which affects your (singular and plural) engagement with and in God&#8217;s world.</p>
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		<title>By: craftlessculture</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think his heart is in the right place, but he is coming from a modern anthropological basis, as you have depicted him. Cultural exegesis for the purpose of mission is limited because you can only learn so much about a culture from its texts.  What is compelling about the Christian narrative, as much as what it says, is how it is embodied.  As someone who is progressive, I shudder when people constantly make assumptions about me and my beliefs based on the cultural products of Christian media. 

I am also concerned about the phrase &quot;theological competence&quot; which is incredibly relative. What does it say to those who are mentally disabled or who come from a cultural context where they take much longer to understand the maxims and symbols of one kind of Christianity?  How do denominational diffrerences come into account. 

Finally, I have one faculty member at my divinity school right now who has questioned the &quot;theological competence&quot; of Vanhoozer. I think it is unfair of him to say the least, but it illustrates how proper understandings are hard to come by. 

Media literacy, which is the movement that Church groups who advocate cultural engagement, is done on a scale. A person never reaches a point of absolute media literacy. Just like a piano player may always have a harder piece to learn (Chopsticks to Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and onto Bill Joel then Bach...).  I think it is a helpful process for the Church, but the motivation must be examined. If the purpose of encountering a narrative is to out-narrate it (and sometimes it should be, such as with the narrative of conspiracy theorists, for example), then the dialogue is already broken down. And humility, a core Christian virtue, is already lost. 

But I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his heart is in the right place, but he is coming from a modern anthropological basis, as you have depicted him. Cultural exegesis for the purpose of mission is limited because you can only learn so much about a culture from its texts.  What is compelling about the Christian narrative, as much as what it says, is how it is embodied.  As someone who is progressive, I shudder when people constantly make assumptions about me and my beliefs based on the cultural products of Christian media. </p>
<p>I am also concerned about the phrase &#8220;theological competence&#8221; which is incredibly relative. What does it say to those who are mentally disabled or who come from a cultural context where they take much longer to understand the maxims and symbols of one kind of Christianity?  How do denominational diffrerences come into account. </p>
<p>Finally, I have one faculty member at my divinity school right now who has questioned the &#8220;theological competence&#8221; of Vanhoozer. I think it is unfair of him to say the least, but it illustrates how proper understandings are hard to come by. </p>
<p>Media literacy, which is the movement that Church groups who advocate cultural engagement, is done on a scale. A person never reaches a point of absolute media literacy. Just like a piano player may always have a harder piece to learn (Chopsticks to Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and onto Bill Joel then Bach&#8230;).  I think it is a helpful process for the Church, but the motivation must be examined. If the purpose of encountering a narrative is to out-narrate it (and sometimes it should be, such as with the narrative of conspiracy theorists, for example), then the dialogue is already broken down. And humility, a core Christian virtue, is already lost. </p>
<p>But I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/everyday-theology-1-%c2%bb-reading-and-interpreting-culture/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will find some helpful detail in Prof. Vanhoozer&#039;s chapter on the &quot;how&quot; of cultural exegesis and literacy that I didn&#039;t outline here. 

Regarding your question about &quot;globalization&quot;, my hunch is that the tools he outlines aren&#039;t culturally limited - meaning they would be applicable in any culture, even the increasingly global culture many of us are experiencing.

Perhaps Vanhoozer could answer your question more completely. We have invited him into the conversation. 

Kent]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will find some helpful detail in Prof. Vanhoozer&#8217;s chapter on the &#8220;how&#8221; of cultural exegesis and literacy that I didn&#8217;t outline here. </p>
<p>Regarding your question about &#8220;globalization&#8221;, my hunch is that the tools he outlines aren&#8217;t culturally limited &#8211; meaning they would be applicable in any culture, even the increasingly global culture many of us are experiencing.</p>
<p>Perhaps Vanhoozer could answer your question more completely. We have invited him into the conversation. </p>
<p>Kent</p>
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		<title>By: plesseym</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin, 
Thanks for that introduction. Any recommendations on how cultural exigesis is done or how one becomes culturally literate?  

With so called &quot;globalization&quot; is it possible to map how this can be done for so many cultures. 

Waiting with eagerness for the second article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br />
Thanks for that introduction. Any recommendations on how cultural exigesis is done or how one becomes culturally literate?  </p>
<p>With so called &#8220;globalization&#8221; is it possible to map how this can be done for so many cultures. </p>
<p>Waiting with eagerness for the second article.</p>
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		<title>By: adamjcopeland</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/everyday-theology-1-%c2%bb-reading-and-interpreting-culture/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adamjcopeland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the post.  Though I&#039;m not sure I could make a formula from it, I try approach culture with a similar approach.  I&#039;ll definitely pick up the book.  
         http://adamjcopeland.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post.  Though I&#8217;m not sure I could make a formula from it, I try approach culture with a similar approach.  I&#8217;ll definitely pick up the book.<br />
         <a href="http://adamjcopeland.com" rel="nofollow">http://adamjcopeland.com</a></p>
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