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	<title>Comments on: A New Doctor, Pannenberg and Reconciliation</title>
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		<title>By: Geordie</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-new-doctor-pannenberg-and-reconciliation/#comment-13054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geordie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats Kent!  
i&#039;d love to hear more from you on how you think that Pannenberg&#039;s project specifically informs your own theology.  Blessings on your first year teaching!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Kent!<br />
i&#8217;d love to hear more from you on how you think that Pannenberg&#8217;s project specifically informs your own theology.  Blessings on your first year teaching!</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-new-doctor-pannenberg-and-reconciliation/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations! and I am excited to read more of this someday, hopefully. I am not too familiar with Pannenberg, but every time I encounter him, I am fascinated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations! and I am excited to read more of this someday, hopefully. I am not too familiar with Pannenberg, but every time I encounter him, I am fascinated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-new-doctor-pannenberg-and-reconciliation/#comment-12485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A final thought on this doctor of theology thing (thank you Kyle for the generous announcement): 

&quot;Doctors of arts, medicine, law and philosophy, can be made by the pope, the emperor, and the universities; but be quite sure that no one can make a doctor of Holy Scripture save only the Holy Spirit from heaven, as Christ says in John vi: &#039;They must all be taught of God himself.&#039; Now the Holy Spirit does not ask after red or brown robes, or what is showy, nor whether man is young or old, lay or clerical, monastic or secular, virgin or married. Indeed, He once spoke by an ass against the prophet that rode on it. Would God we were worthy that such doctors be given us ...&quot; (Luther, &lt;i&gt;WA&lt;/i&gt; 6, 460, 28, quoted in Barth, &lt;i&gt;CD&lt;/i&gt;I/1, 19)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A final thought on this doctor of theology thing (thank you Kyle for the generous announcement): </p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors of arts, medicine, law and philosophy, can be made by the pope, the emperor, and the universities; but be quite sure that no one can make a doctor of Holy Scripture save only the Holy Spirit from heaven, as Christ says in John vi: &#8216;They must all be taught of God himself.&#8217; Now the Holy Spirit does not ask after red or brown robes, or what is showy, nor whether man is young or old, lay or clerical, monastic or secular, virgin or married. Indeed, He once spoke by an ass against the prophet that rode on it. Would God we were worthy that such doctors be given us &#8230;&#8221; (Luther, <i>WA</i> 6, 460, 28, quoted in Barth, <i>CD</i>I/1, 19)</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Grow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Grow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Griffin,

Not trying to answer for Kent, because I&#039;m interested in his response as well; I would say as Gregory of Nanzanzius: 

&lt;em&gt;The unassumed is the unhealed&lt;/em&gt;

If He didn&#039;t assume our fallenness (II Cor. 5:21) then what did he redeem?

It&#039;s not necessary to believe that if He did assume a fallen body, that he sinned . . . which I think is the fear that is driving your question. 

T. F. Torrance in his posthmously published book: &lt;em&gt;Incarnation&lt;/em&gt; ed. Robert Walker deals with this question, if you haven&#039;t you should check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin,</p>
<p>Not trying to answer for Kent, because I&#8217;m interested in his response as well; I would say as Gregory of Nanzanzius: </p>
<p><em>The unassumed is the unhealed</em></p>
<p>If He didn&#8217;t assume our fallenness (II Cor. 5:21) then what did he redeem?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessary to believe that if He did assume a fallen body, that he sinned . . . which I think is the fear that is driving your question. </p>
<p>T. F. Torrance in his posthmously published book: <em>Incarnation</em> ed. Robert Walker deals with this question, if you haven&#8217;t you should check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Griffin</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-new-doctor-pannenberg-and-reconciliation/#comment-12459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rephrasing:  if we have God embracing our &quot;creatureliness&quot; - which seems like a good idea offhand - still, many might object however, that this almost seems to be in &quot;danger&quot; of embracing not just our very  human/humanistic side; but also even our &quot;flesh&quot;ly side.  Which poses problems from a Pauline point of view especially; Paul attacking our &quot;flesh&quot; it seems, often.  Embracing the temporal perhaps over the eternal, poses similar theoretical problems, for some.

Any thoughts on how to parse this?  If we should at all?  Perhaps the most radical &quot;solution&quot; here, would be for God to even somehow embrace our alleged human &quot;errors&quot;? 

If this makes sense?  If I understand your thesis?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rephrasing:  if we have God embracing our &#8220;creatureliness&#8221; &#8211; which seems like a good idea offhand &#8211; still, many might object however, that this almost seems to be in &#8220;danger&#8221; of embracing not just our very  human/humanistic side; but also even our &#8220;flesh&#8221;ly side.  Which poses problems from a Pauline point of view especially; Paul attacking our &#8220;flesh&#8221; it seems, often.  Embracing the temporal perhaps over the eternal, poses similar theoretical problems, for some.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on how to parse this?  If we should at all?  Perhaps the most radical &#8220;solution&#8221; here, would be for God to even somehow embrace our alleged human &#8220;errors&#8221;? </p>
<p>If this makes sense?  If I understand your thesis?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Resler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Resler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great news Kent!  Congratulations and I know that your family is super proud of you as well.  You are a blessing to others and I know that you will continue to faithfully serve God in all that you do!  

I do have a 2002 Portofino with your name on it if I could get your new address?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news Kent!  Congratulations and I know that your family is super proud of you as well.  You are a blessing to others and I know that you will continue to faithfully serve God in all that you do!  </p>
<p>I do have a 2002 Portofino with your name on it if I could get your new address?!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Grow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Grow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent,

It&#039;s not that your thick, it&#039;s that you&#039;re now &lt;strong&gt;P&lt;/strong&gt;iled &lt;strong&gt;H&lt;/strong&gt;igher and &lt;strong&gt;d&lt;/strong&gt;eeper . . . sorry, couldn&#039;t resist ;-).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that your thick, it&#8217;s that you&#8217;re now <strong>P</strong>iled <strong>H</strong>igher and <strong>d</strong>eeper . . . sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Grow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Grow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That sounds like a great thought process, Kent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like a great thought process, Kent!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/a-new-doctor-pannenberg-and-reconciliation/#comment-12406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I figured I would get a good deal of Barth just being in Aberdeen (and I did), so I centred my project on Pannenberg&#039;s systematics for the opportunity to listen to another great, dogmatic theologian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured I would get a good deal of Barth just being in Aberdeen (and I did), so I centred my project on Pannenberg&#8217;s systematics for the opportunity to listen to another great, dogmatic theologian.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Goroncy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Goroncy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great news. Congratulations Kent. Trust it was worth the ride.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news. Congratulations Kent. Trust it was worth the ride.</p>
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