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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-christology-of-irenaeus-resources/#comment-16402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Geordie. I hope your project on Torrance continues to progress well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Geordie. I hope your project on Torrance continues to progress well.</p>
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		<title>By: Geordie Ziegler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geordie Ziegler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Kent,
looks like you&#039;ve got a lot of leads, but you might want to check out a book that is just coming out through Eerdmann&#039;s in the next month called &#039;Calvin&#039;s Ladder&#039; by Julie Canlis.  She did her PhD at St. Andrews under Alan Torrance on Irenaeus and Calvin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kent,<br />
looks like you&#8217;ve got a lot of leads, but you might want to check out a book that is just coming out through Eerdmann&#8217;s in the next month called &#8216;Calvin&#8217;s Ladder&#8217; by Julie Canlis.  She did her PhD at St. Andrews under Alan Torrance on Irenaeus and Calvin.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-christology-of-irenaeus-resources/#comment-16397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GF, this is &lt;em&gt;very &lt;/em&gt;helpful and precisely what I am interested to explore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GF, this is <em>very </em>helpful and precisely what I am interested to explore.</p>
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		<title>By: Big G</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-christology-of-irenaeus-resources/#comment-16392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent

A former Roman Catholic, called John Paul Aranzulla, who is now working as missionary back in Italy (Bologna), is a Ph.D from King&#039;s College London under Colin Gunton on Irenaeus&#039; conception of recapitulation.

You can get hold of him here: http://www.crosslinks.org/mps/aranzulla/index.html 

I remember hearing him doing a paper on this at the postgrad seminar at King&#039;s and it was exceptionally good - what garnerd most discussion was one of the most insightful defences I have heard of the (what I would regard as the classical position) view that Christ took an unfallen human nature in the incarnation ... he made the point that in Ireneaus Christ recapitulates from the point of creation onwards, not from the point of the fall onwards.

Anyway - JP might be a good person to contact and to ask about his thesis.

GF]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent</p>
<p>A former Roman Catholic, called John Paul Aranzulla, who is now working as missionary back in Italy (Bologna), is a Ph.D from King&#8217;s College London under Colin Gunton on Irenaeus&#8217; conception of recapitulation.</p>
<p>You can get hold of him here: <a href="http://www.crosslinks.org/mps/aranzulla/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crosslinks.org/mps/aranzulla/index.html</a> </p>
<p>I remember hearing him doing a paper on this at the postgrad seminar at King&#8217;s and it was exceptionally good &#8211; what garnerd most discussion was one of the most insightful defences I have heard of the (what I would regard as the classical position) view that Christ took an unfallen human nature in the incarnation &#8230; he made the point that in Ireneaus Christ recapitulates from the point of creation onwards, not from the point of the fall onwards.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; JP might be a good person to contact and to ask about his thesis.</p>
<p>GF</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Eilers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Eilers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to all for the excellent suggestions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for the excellent suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Speece</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Speece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doulas Farrow&#039;s &quot;Ascension and Ecclesia&quot; would be one to look into.  He bases most of his argument on Irenaeus&#039; christology and cosmology.  In fact, he devotes 2 whole chapters to the subject with a very in-depth analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doulas Farrow&#8217;s &#8220;Ascension and Ecclesia&#8221; would be one to look into.  He bases most of his argument on Irenaeus&#8217; christology and cosmology.  In fact, he devotes 2 whole chapters to the subject with a very in-depth analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not read this and so cannot account for its quality, but chapter 7 may be of interest

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-After-Gospels-Christ-Century/dp/0664221882]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read this and so cannot account for its quality, but chapter 7 may be of interest</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Scandal of the Incarnation by Von Balthasar is a collection of AH quotes in a sort of narrative progression. Balthasar gives the intro too...pretty good stuff.

J. Kameron Carter&#039;s book, Race: A Theological Account, also deals with Christological recapitulation as it bears on race talk and the racial imagination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Scandal of the Incarnation by Von Balthasar is a collection of AH quotes in a sort of narrative progression. Balthasar gives the intro too&#8230;pretty good stuff.</p>
<p>J. Kameron Carter&#8217;s book, Race: A Theological Account, also deals with Christological recapitulation as it bears on race talk and the racial imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Robinson</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/the-christology-of-irenaeus-resources/#comment-16226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perry Robinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a couple of monographs available on Ireneaus and collections. Robert Grant&#039;s is a good new collection with a good intro.

Also try Eric Osborn&#039;s book. Steenberg&#039;s book On God and Man might prove useful too.

As far as publishers I&#039;d check with Brill, Ashgate and such first.

Khalid Anatolios&#039; book, Athanasius: The Coherence of His Thought, is outstanding and the first chapter or so has a good deal of material on Ireneaus on creation and recapitulation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of monographs available on Ireneaus and collections. Robert Grant&#8217;s is a good new collection with a good intro.</p>
<p>Also try Eric Osborn&#8217;s book. Steenberg&#8217;s book On God and Man might prove useful too.</p>
<p>As far as publishers I&#8217;d check with Brill, Ashgate and such first.</p>
<p>Khalid Anatolios&#8217; book, Athanasius: The Coherence of His Thought, is outstanding and the first chapter or so has a good deal of material on Ireneaus on creation and recapitulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Esqueda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Esqueda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent, I have used &quot;Early Christian Doctrines. 3rd ed&quot; by J.N.D. Kelly as a history resource for the Patristic period. It is a very good book. I have also used &quot;The Christological Controversy&quot; by Richard A. Norris, which has some primary resources. I found both of these books helpful and I know that they are recommended by Richard Muller from Calvin. Hopefully that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, I have used &#8220;Early Christian Doctrines. 3rd ed&#8221; by J.N.D. Kelly as a history resource for the Patristic period. It is a very good book. I have also used &#8220;The Christological Controversy&#8221; by Richard A. Norris, which has some primary resources. I found both of these books helpful and I know that they are recommended by Richard Muller from Calvin. Hopefully that helps.</p>
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