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		<title>By: The Juvenilization of American Christianity (Part 2) &#171; Theology Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 3 which survey the response to youth culture in the 1940s and 1950s (read previous posts here and here). Chapter 4 treats the political activism of the black church during the 1960s, and there are [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tom Bergler</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geordie:

I&#039;m glad you asked the questions you did.  I agree that there can be a positive process of spiritual development that engages the kind of differentiation and identity formation processes that have been identified by developmental psychologists.  Indeed, to the extent that the developmental theories of adolescence are accurate, we would expect that a full discipleship process in Christ would address those issues and incorporate them into the process of spiritual growth.   So in answer to your question, the emotional connection with God that many people experience during adolescence or emerging adulthood can be an important and positive part of their spiritual development.  And, as you suggest, people should normally grow out of adolescence and into a humanly and spiritually healthy adulthood.  They do not lose their emotional connection to God in the process of growing up, but they add to that dimension other elements of spiritual maturity.  

Unfortunately this transition to adulthood is becoming more difficult and ambiguous because adulthood itself has changed over the past few decades.  In his book Arrested Adulthood, sociologist James Cote argues that due to macro level social changes in modern societies, there is a new &quot;psychological adulthood&quot; that looks a lot like the old adolescence.  Like adolescents, adults are in a continual process of self development and identity formation. A person is an adult when she decides she is.  And what &quot;adult&quot; means is up to the individual to decide.  A duty to care for others or give back to society, to keep commitments, etc...are things that are now optional.  As Cote poignantly asks, &quot;Who will care for the children?&quot;

There has been far too little serious theological reflection on developmental theories and on how human development itself has changed over time.  We are in a new era in which the social and psychological markers of adulthood are in flux.  And as Cote argues, there are many tempting, self-indulgent, consumerist detours on the way to mature adulthood.  So Christians will need to more carefully develop our own biblically and theologically grounded portraits of maturity.  And we need to help Christians of all ages see spiritual maturity as both desirable and attainable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geordie:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you asked the questions you did.  I agree that there can be a positive process of spiritual development that engages the kind of differentiation and identity formation processes that have been identified by developmental psychologists.  Indeed, to the extent that the developmental theories of adolescence are accurate, we would expect that a full discipleship process in Christ would address those issues and incorporate them into the process of spiritual growth.   So in answer to your question, the emotional connection with God that many people experience during adolescence or emerging adulthood can be an important and positive part of their spiritual development.  And, as you suggest, people should normally grow out of adolescence and into a humanly and spiritually healthy adulthood.  They do not lose their emotional connection to God in the process of growing up, but they add to that dimension other elements of spiritual maturity.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately this transition to adulthood is becoming more difficult and ambiguous because adulthood itself has changed over the past few decades.  In his book Arrested Adulthood, sociologist James Cote argues that due to macro level social changes in modern societies, there is a new &#8220;psychological adulthood&#8221; that looks a lot like the old adolescence.  Like adolescents, adults are in a continual process of self development and identity formation. A person is an adult when she decides she is.  And what &#8220;adult&#8221; means is up to the individual to decide.  A duty to care for others or give back to society, to keep commitments, etc&#8230;are things that are now optional.  As Cote poignantly asks, &#8220;Who will care for the children?&#8221;</p>
<p>There has been far too little serious theological reflection on developmental theories and on how human development itself has changed over time.  We are in a new era in which the social and psychological markers of adulthood are in flux.  And as Cote argues, there are many tempting, self-indulgent, consumerist detours on the way to mature adulthood.  So Christians will need to more carefully develop our own biblically and theologically grounded portraits of maturity.  And we need to help Christians of all ages see spiritual maturity as both desirable and attainable.</p>
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		<title>By: The Juvenilization of American Christianity (Part 1) &#171; Theology Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] new book on the influence of youth culture on American Christianity in a previous post (read it here). Given the shape of the book, I will move one at a time through chapters 1-7 which chart [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Eerdmans All Over: A Weekly Roundup of News from Eerdmans and Elsewhere &#171; EerdWord</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/the-juvenilization-of-american-christianity-intro/#comment-26134</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Kent Eilers launched an in-depth, chapter-by-chapter review series discussing The Juvenilization of American Christianity (Thomas E. Bergler) on the Huntington College Theology Forum. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kent Eilers launched an in-depth, chapter-by-chapter review series discussing The Juvenilization of American Christianity (Thomas E. Bergler) on the Huntington College Theology Forum. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: geordieziegler</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks like an interesting subject Kent.  I would expect this juvenilization to be especially evident on a college campus.  One of the questions it raises for me (and not having read the book, you&#039;d have to tell me if it discusses this) is about the importance of a Christian&#039;s development through what might be called an &#039;adolescent&#039; stage where they have to sort through a lot of emotional baggage and seek healthy differentiation from their parents and appropriately bond with God.  A lot of people in their 20&#039;s and early 30&#039;s go through that and it seems to be an important phase.  The question i have, is a) are we to &#039;grow out&#039; of that phase on to other things, and b) what are the marks of that transition, and c) if one does not go through the &#039;adolescent&#039; stage, how is their version of adult maturity actually stunted because it is emotionally disconnected?  
- Geordie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like an interesting subject Kent.  I would expect this juvenilization to be especially evident on a college campus.  One of the questions it raises for me (and not having read the book, you&#8217;d have to tell me if it discusses this) is about the importance of a Christian&#8217;s development through what might be called an &#8216;adolescent&#8217; stage where they have to sort through a lot of emotional baggage and seek healthy differentiation from their parents and appropriately bond with God.  A lot of people in their 20&#8242;s and early 30&#8242;s go through that and it seems to be an important phase.  The question i have, is a) are we to &#8216;grow out&#8217; of that phase on to other things, and b) what are the marks of that transition, and c) if one does not go through the &#8216;adolescent&#8217; stage, how is their version of adult maturity actually stunted because it is emotionally disconnected?<br />
- Geordie</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hirschy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Hirschy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First I would like to say that I am excited to see the discussions that develop the next few weeks!  I have very little ministry experience, but I would like to share from the perspective of growing up with this sort of faith mindset.  I always thought something was wrong with my faith growing up because I didn&#039;t have those emotional highs we used to talk about at youth group and campus life.  At times, I questioned if I was even a true believer.  It wasn&#039;t until I came to HU and took Dr. Bergler&#039;s intro ministry course and then Dr. Fetter&#039;s Evangelism course that I came to understand how misinformed I was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I would like to say that I am excited to see the discussions that develop the next few weeks!  I have very little ministry experience, but I would like to share from the perspective of growing up with this sort of faith mindset.  I always thought something was wrong with my faith growing up because I didn&#8217;t have those emotional highs we used to talk about at youth group and campus life.  At times, I questioned if I was even a true believer.  It wasn&#8217;t until I came to HU and took Dr. Bergler&#8217;s intro ministry course and then Dr. Fetter&#8217;s Evangelism course that I came to understand how misinformed I was.</p>
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