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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Edwards and Justification</title>
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		<title>By: Kyle Strobel</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/jonathan-edwards-and-justification/#comment-26836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Strobel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geordie, 

I argue in my chapter that Edwards moves God&#039;s declarative speech act to the effectual call, in keeping with Reformed High Orthodoxy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geordie, </p>
<p>I argue in my chapter that Edwards moves God&#8217;s declarative speech act to the effectual call, in keeping with Reformed High Orthodoxy.</p>
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		<title>By: geordieziegler</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify....  Do you mean that Edwards moves God&#039;s declarative speech act over to the effectual call, or something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify&#8230;.  Do you mean that Edwards moves God&#8217;s declarative speech act over to the effectual call, or something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Strobel</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/jonathan-edwards-and-justification/#comment-26823</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geordie, 

Yes, that critique is made. Usually people don&#039;t go so far as to call it unreformed, but a move away from what they see as the central tenant of Reformed theology (or, more narrowly, soteriology). Horton, for instance, thinks that a truly Reformed soteriology has Gods declarative speech act as its fountain. I argue in this chapter that Edwards does not lose this impulse, but, with the bulk of Reformed High Orthodoxy, move it over to the effectual call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geordie, </p>
<p>Yes, that critique is made. Usually people don&#8217;t go so far as to call it unreformed, but a move away from what they see as the central tenant of Reformed theology (or, more narrowly, soteriology). Horton, for instance, thinks that a truly Reformed soteriology has Gods declarative speech act as its fountain. I argue in this chapter that Edwards does not lose this impulse, but, with the bulk of Reformed High Orthodoxy, move it over to the effectual call.</p>
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		<title>By: geordieziegler</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyle,

i&#039;m a little late to the party here, but i&#039;m just wondering if the legitimacy of Edward&#039;s &#039;reformedness&#039; is questioned because of his privileging of participation and union to justification so that, as you say, justification has its ground in participation and union rather than the other way round.  In other words, i&#039;m wondering if there are some who see that move as &#039;unreformed&#039;.  

If that is the critiique, what is the defense of that ordering as a legitimate reformed position?  

Geordie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>i&#8217;m a little late to the party here, but i&#8217;m just wondering if the legitimacy of Edward&#8217;s &#8216;reformedness&#8217; is questioned because of his privileging of participation and union to justification so that, as you say, justification has its ground in participation and union rather than the other way round.  In other words, i&#8217;m wondering if there are some who see that move as &#8216;unreformed&#8217;.  </p>
<p>If that is the critiique, what is the defense of that ordering as a legitimate reformed position?  </p>
<p>Geordie</p>
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		<title>By: Theology Around the Blogosphere &#8212; August 2012 &#171; Cheese-Wearing Theology</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/jonathan-edwards-and-justification/#comment-26766</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bobby Grow</title>
		<link>http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/jonathan-edwards-and-justification/#comment-26626</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 23:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyle,

Thank you. And I understand your point about the Holy Spirit in High Calvinist orthodoxy, indeed. I need to spend more time with Edwards, and you are motivating me to do so; thanks, again, Kyle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>Thank you. And I understand your point about the Holy Spirit in High Calvinist orthodoxy, indeed. I need to spend more time with Edwards, and you are motivating me to do so; thanks, again, Kyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Strobel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Strobel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bobby, it is hard to know how much of anyone Edwards read. What is clear is that he was a modern man who wanted to be a player in an international scene of modern theology, so he focused his attention on figures like John Locke, Cambridge Platonists, etc., as well as Francis Turretin, John Owen, Peter van Mastricht, etc. He certainly read Calvin, but probably didn&#039;t really study him. 

In my analysis, I would say that Edwards basically follows Calvin here by focusing all of his attention on union and participation. The focal point of his soteriology is always Christ and the Spirit. He couldn&#039;t really have used the lanugage of &quot;double grace&quot; as Calvin did, but he would have made the same kinds of moves. Ultimately, for Edwards, justification and sanctification are words that call out participation in Christ&#039;s life (and therefore participation in Christ&#039;s justification and Christ&#039;s sanctification), as well as a particular kind of emphasis on the work of the Holy Spirit that was standard fare for the high orthodox period of Reformed theology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby, it is hard to know how much of anyone Edwards read. What is clear is that he was a modern man who wanted to be a player in an international scene of modern theology, so he focused his attention on figures like John Locke, Cambridge Platonists, etc., as well as Francis Turretin, John Owen, Peter van Mastricht, etc. He certainly read Calvin, but probably didn&#8217;t really study him. </p>
<p>In my analysis, I would say that Edwards basically follows Calvin here by focusing all of his attention on union and participation. The focal point of his soteriology is always Christ and the Spirit. He couldn&#8217;t really have used the lanugage of &#8220;double grace&#8221; as Calvin did, but he would have made the same kinds of moves. Ultimately, for Edwards, justification and sanctification are words that call out participation in Christ&#8217;s life (and therefore participation in Christ&#8217;s justification and Christ&#8217;s sanctification), as well as a particular kind of emphasis on the work of the Holy Spirit that was standard fare for the high orthodox period of Reformed theology.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Grow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Grow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyle,

How would you say that Edwards&#039; theology correlates with Calvin&#039;s &#039;double grace&#039; and union with Christ theology (if)? From what you have said above, it sounds as if Edwards and Calvin are at least conversation partners. Did Edwards read Calvin at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>How would you say that Edwards&#8217; theology correlates with Calvin&#8217;s &#8216;double grace&#8217; and union with Christ theology (if)? From what you have said above, it sounds as if Edwards and Calvin are at least conversation partners. Did Edwards read Calvin at all?</p>
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